What I think is missing here is an active component. By this I would ask is society itself and it's needs are not a factor? Do we ask if it is a boy or a girl and the treatment afterwords not culture trying to assert itself? The Boy and Girl dynamics have a direct impact on the future of the tribe does it not. So Manhood and Woman Hood should also be looked at by the results produced in society and its trajectory into the future right? Today we have an open question as to what is a Women. Is this having a positive or negative effect on society? Has it been beneficial? With the rise of depression and the decline in families and birth rates I would not think so. So I would not deem it wise to question what is a man but what role men must play and want needs to be contributed to society. Manhood should not be simply looked at as a list of traits one does or does not have but how one uses there triats. The one most defining feature of all men is that we are born without value as we can not produce children so we are disposable. However this may soon no longer be the case. I will soon bring this up in my vision of a framework man is my frist post. The Proposal.
I'm all for an active component, and I actually think there's one there, becoming a healthy self-determined adult.
Now there's plenty to unpack when it comes to what makes someone healthy, but I think that's where society and its needs are met. The difference is that, rather than saying "men contribute this" and "women contribute this," it's asking what is authentically us that we can contribute? While the gender-based approach rejects self-determination for both men and women, what I'm bringing forth invites it.
I'd reject the notion that men not being able to have children makes us disposable or without value, although I would agree that the creation of gender roles is an attempt by men to create value on a cultural level.
I tend to see human value a bit like energy. There's always potential and that should be honored, but the hard part is to make it kinetic in a way that is useful rather than just zapping people.
What I think is missing here is an active component. By this I would ask is society itself and it's needs are not a factor? Do we ask if it is a boy or a girl and the treatment afterwords not culture trying to assert itself? The Boy and Girl dynamics have a direct impact on the future of the tribe does it not. So Manhood and Woman Hood should also be looked at by the results produced in society and its trajectory into the future right? Today we have an open question as to what is a Women. Is this having a positive or negative effect on society? Has it been beneficial? With the rise of depression and the decline in families and birth rates I would not think so. So I would not deem it wise to question what is a man but what role men must play and want needs to be contributed to society. Manhood should not be simply looked at as a list of traits one does or does not have but how one uses there triats. The one most defining feature of all men is that we are born without value as we can not produce children so we are disposable. However this may soon no longer be the case. I will soon bring this up in my vision of a framework man is my frist post. The Proposal.
I'm all for an active component, and I actually think there's one there, becoming a healthy self-determined adult.
Now there's plenty to unpack when it comes to what makes someone healthy, but I think that's where society and its needs are met. The difference is that, rather than saying "men contribute this" and "women contribute this," it's asking what is authentically us that we can contribute? While the gender-based approach rejects self-determination for both men and women, what I'm bringing forth invites it.
I'd reject the notion that men not being able to have children makes us disposable or without value, although I would agree that the creation of gender roles is an attempt by men to create value on a cultural level.
I tend to see human value a bit like energy. There's always potential and that should be honored, but the hard part is to make it kinetic in a way that is useful rather than just zapping people.
Looking forward to discussing more.